do pros bend their irons stronger

X Hot Pro 16 w/Rogue Black But that's not the only reason for that. Well, I'm a touch over 6'. WIth KLP on this one: bending stronger for spin reduction/trajectory is IMHO missing the point, fix impact first. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] You can take your clubs to a fitter, and they will be able to check the angles and lofts of each of your irons and make any necessary adjustments based on what they find. Reset Password I noticed when looking in the for sale forum, that there are alot of irons bent like this. [quote name='dlygrisse' post='1857448' date='Aug 1 2009, 11:07 PM']When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10.[/quote] [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] Hitting off a lie board covers the in-store, sell you a set of clubs mantra. 10.5 set at small - All rights reserved. I would advise you to not try it yourself unless you have experience in doing so professionally. Then, if you decide to carry out the work, its best to take the clubs to a fitter to do it on your behalf. They are just tweaking the sets to fit their distance needs. (Worth the Money?!). Whether its changing the lie to improve accuracy or changing loft to make sure that the players clubs are progressively consistent, angle bending is a major factor in club performance. Most guys would love to have a little extra spin on those longer irons to hold greens, personally I would tweak the swing a bit but I wouldn't really change to much else as you have a huge advantage having that little extra spin there with a club like a 6 iron. I agree with these two reasons here. Diamana GT 70 TX TM Tour Tip. Maybe a little further, maybe a little lower, maybe to change bounce, maybe just looks/feels better. I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. 6 iron SS: 95.5 mph Bending a golf club allows you to change the angle of your club, which is an effective way of changing your ball flight. Just because you have 130 yds to pin doesn't mean it's automatically a PW..depends on alot of factors Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? They will adjust each iron to get even gaps between each iron. A good tune-up is a good tune-up regardless of the final loft gaps. Axis 1 Rose model 35.5'' Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal. **. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] Posted August 1, 2009. Hogan was big into this. Should I see any difference in 1 degree stronger irons? The spin makes the ball "balloon" and land too steep which actually makes it harder to stick greens so while the spin may not be the actual problem, it's the reason that I would like to flatten my ball flight out. [/quote] I have a set of S58s where the bounce is already generous, so no issues. How much will bending an iron affect how it plays? While you can theoretically bend fairway woods and hybrids, the design and loft of irons mean that you can bend them to ensure that theyre consistent from one club to the next. They know how much torque to put on the hozzel. Why is it so popular to bend your irons 2 degrees up? Did I just answer my owne questions, do pro's bend the clubs stronger to have less bounce? While some golfers can afford such a price tag to improve their clubs, others will balk at it! Do Pros Use Graphite Irons? - Golf Span PGA Tour players swing the club fast. I'm curious about this as well. 7-Iron Comparison by Loft. Your link has been automatically embedded. 5-iron - 23.5 degrees. Best of luck.Chuck. Epoxy Curing Times for Golf Clubs, Work Life and Shear Strength. ENTER NOW! [/quote] Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. thanks[/quote] Another thing to note is that a manufacturers new set of clubs doesnt mean their lofts are completely accurate. It would definitely not work for me but might be ok for you. Irons Bent stronger - WRX Club Techs - GolfWRX Bending Golf Clubs: 5 Facts & Fallacies [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Taylormade M6Callaway Steelhead XR 4+Mizuno MP-18 mb 4-PWTitliest SM7 50f, 54s, 58dSC Phantom X 5.5. (Who Makes Them? tiger used 2 weak one his old iron i dont know if he still using it, Ping G430LST w/ TPT 14HI / Synergy green 75tx / Ventus TR blue 6-iron - 26.5 degrees. Even with the knowledge of club bending and its importance on your play, there are a lot of misconceptions about what can and cant be done with a clubs loft and lie. Looking For Advice or Feedback, Stealth 3 Wood, Unique Odyssey, RTX Raw, Epic Flash, Ping Eye 2 BeCu 1 iron - $1,000here me out, Your Choice of EvnRoll ER11v Mallets ($210), Titleist Scotty Cameron Futura X7M Putter and Stitch Polo XXL NWT, NEW Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus 9 deg. Thanks! Stronger iron lofts don't always create more distance get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Every 1* is about 3 yards each way I had one fitter tell me I could play at 4 deg flat but that seemed a little extreme. After all, manufacturing golf clubs and ensuring the loft and angle on each club is no easy feat, so its not something that you should experiment with. How do they test to determine which launch angle best suits you. While golf club manufacturers certainly try to make a consistent product, there are often inconsistencies in the lofts and lies of the clubs and they may not be progressively consistent from one club to another. 4-iron - 20.5 degrees. There is a tendency to over analyze things here, and the thought that a degree or two of loft making that big of a difference is often over exaggerated. #3 there are no real cons, bend away and try it. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] But is bending your golf clubs really a good idea? 2. Abandoned Golf Courses for Sale (How Much?). 2 deg flat seems to work pretty well for me. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. Bending the loft is another story. Can you bend a metal wood? "Just change your swing" isn't always the answer. By [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15* GD AD-BB 7x. Which is more typical to change? Some people do it to improve their ball flight, while others do it because they think that their golf clubs have been poorly manufactured. which leads to your observation since a rather huge majority of golfers slice the ball (even if they like to call it a fade) then a simple band-aid is to bend it more upright.. in the same way most drivers have their faces set closed at address and also with far more upright lie angles than 'fits'. You probably have hair as well. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. Check out our video: how-to bend your clubs on a Mitchell Golf Angle Machine: Get Bending! [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] TXG Custom Mizuno T20, 50/05, 59/06, Nippon 950H Neo. A Good Fit for a Clubfitter is the Post Fit. Now tilt the club grip end down a bit so that the club's toe comes up off the ground a fair bit and you'll see the pencil now points subtantially more leftward than before. 2 degrees up from what? The only way you would see a difference is if you put them side by side with another set of Ap2's that are not bent. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Unfortunately what you then see is that they tend to pull their short irons. Taking the next club up isn't as easy because the lengths are longer and it won't be as easy to control. You could just buy them cut down half an inch and lies bent accordingly, which would maintain the same look. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. TXG Custom PXG 0211 6-pw, 1* flat, Recoil ESX 460 R. Callaway MD5 46*, Tour Issue DG S200. Is this something everyone should be doing, or is it very specific to a certain type of swing? ps i see a poster right before mine made comments about " good players " and their abilities to manipulate flight and trajectory of the ball just because a player has strong lofted irons does not give one indication of their ability so jump off your high horse .just because you may have a low handicap does not make you elite enough to judge others .. a few generalizations about lie angles: short golfers (think Ian Woosnam) will often require flatter lies; tall golfers (think Tom Weiskopf) will often benefit from more upright lies. Are modern irons with stronger lofts easier/harder to hit - GolfWRX [/quote] [/quote]actually a "good" player (one who actually CAN control trajectory) could grab 10 different clubs off a rack and MAKE the ball flight in the air look VERY similar (no, that doesn't mean they are all ideal for the player, and no that doesn't mean they all fit him). [quote name='OldGolfer87' timestamp='1444324826' post='12428468'] For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade. So for many, playing an upright lie with your irons is a quick and dirty fix for those who can't or don't want to take the time to fix a swing flaw. Its all about ball flight and gaps. When you start messing with length, then you also mess with swing weight and then adding weight to compensate for the SW can start messing with the flex of the shaft. Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood, Ping G410 5 hybrid-not much use. If you want to add more loft to hit it a bit higher you can do so, but you will sacrifice some distance. This is the most important tweak you can make to your golf clubs Yes, that above but Why not take one more club, and how much distance do you gain with 1*. that is why the standard lie angles of GI irons will be more upright thant the standard lie angles of a " players" iron, even among the same manufacturer. Mizuno used to manufacture their iron sets with flatter lies than most OEM's partly because the average Japanese male was shorter than the average N. American male. Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? [b]I'm guessing when most say they have been bent 2 degrees, they are talking about the loft[/b]. There is no standard lie so the actual lie angle could be anything. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] Takomo Golf Clubs Review: (As Good as Expected? However, before opting to have your golf clubs bent, wed recommend speaking to a custom club fitter. clemsondds, August 1, 2009 in WRX Club Techs, Hey guys, just wondering if some of ya'll can explain why people bend their irons up to 2 degrees? It can be re-bent without any adverse effect on it. I am now thinking I am just going to bend my 712 Ap2 irons to the 714 AP2 specs so my gaps will match up better with my wedges. You absolutely can buy a golf bending machine to use at home, but you will find that theyre super expensive, typically costing several hundred if not thousands of dollars. I've always just played with whatever I had, but I'm now trying to work my way up to being able to afford a set that actually fits me. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Callaway XR Pro 9* Matrix Red Tie 65x. Add in the added forgiveness of modern irons, and you have a winning combination. It would seem that bending lofts stronger would make them go further. Pasted as rich text. 9 iron 41 148 If they can market a club that will cut down on that slice they are going to sell more clubs. was good. It is very easy to do these modifications, and also recommended by a lot of folks to have your set checked either frequently or at the end of each year in case any changes happened during the season from general play. This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. It would seem that bending lofts stronger would make them go further. ), Are Cobra Golf Clubs Good? My 5 irons lie is 59 deg whereas the usual 5 iron lie from most manufacturers is more like 61 deg. So, if you want to bend your golf clubs this season, you can expect to pay somewhere around the $100 mark for your entire set of irons, but you might be able to negotiate a discount. [/quote] [/quote] Anyone know if most pros have this done? You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. There is no worry about bending a club that was bent last year or last week. They should be leading and flat. Fit the lie angle so that when [b]YOU[/b] swing that club the sole of the club is 'flat' to the ground ie neither too upright nor too flat - this is when the impact tape on the sole of the club will show the impact/rubbing to be in the middle of the sole. This is often the case with cheaper branded golf clubs that are mass-produced, as less attention to detail is paid by the manufacturers. Pasted as rich text. See What Members Are Saying! [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] I'm also a very high spin player and I'm thinking this might help keep my iron distances consistent, especially when playing in the wind which I often do. Basically almost all irons we offer on ExactGolf like all Miuras, Honmas TR20, Vegas and some Mizunos. See What Members Are Saying! The biggest effect is on the bounce. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Great answer Blake. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. So I was fitted for clubs and the pro said that on my new clubs I didn't need any adjustment. The 2-degree limit is only recommended when changing the lofts on irons due to the potential effect such bends will have on the sole angle of the club. 1. What Irons Do the Pros Use? Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021) If you strengthen iron lofts, how much does bounce become an issue? gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. [/quote] For example, the mizuno MP forged blades (for low cappers) are flatter than the mizuno MX cast cavity back irons for the mid and high capper. Honma TW747 15* Vizard FD-8X You'll shallow out impact (lower AoA) and reduce dynamic loft > combined they will reduce spin loft. But my arms are more like someone 6'4" to 6'5". Then again, I'm not sure that the spin you are talking about is a problem. I would never ever think of doing this on my own. GIVEAWAY! Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? Nike Vapor Flex 9.5* Left/Low, Rogue Max Low 75TX Learn how to hit clubs different ydgsthe pros are very good at doing this [/quote] gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. Which is more typical to change? 1001 Industrial Blvd You can easily bend the lofts and lies to be progressively consistent from one club to the next with zero tolerance. [img]http://pxc86358mpx1hyn3hdxen4o1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/171831.png[/img]. You can strengthen the loft, which will reduce the spin and travel further but won't really fix your problem which I think is too much spin for given trajectory and distance. He wanted to see the club face wide open. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! QEight Advanced Members 3.6k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted August 8, 2014 So he decide just to make them all 3 degrees stronger instead of shortening them. ProV1x-mostly. I had a lot of success bringing my spin rate and trajectory down to something more playable in the wind by tweaking the lofts a little strong. about 2-2.5 increase in bounce for 4-5 increase in loft. PW-iron - 44.5 degrees. These are forgiving clubs so you can work on this new action and learn it in relative safety. But it would reduce bounce by 2*, which may affect playability. If they are not bent properly you can change the lie fairly easily unintentionally. You should absolutely give it a try with a few clubs and see what you think, you can always go back and it might just work. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] Copyright 2023 Mitchell Golf Equipment Company. As mentioned, if youre thinking about bending your golf clubs, wed recommend consulting a professional club fitter first and getting a second opinion. When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10. Ping G400 Testing G410. then reapeat, but, move the ball more forward(note the change). The most popular brand is Golfsmith which manufactures high-quality loft/lie bending machines. Titleist SM8 50/56 W/ LAgolf, Callaway Jaws Raw 60Z /Kbs 610 ENTER NOW! XXIO X Series 5 Wood! Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] Bending Golf Clubs: Should I Do it and How? If you don't like bend them back. [/quote] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. '19 Apex Pro 5-A w/PX If the hosel design and manufacturing processes allow it, the lie of an iron can be bent 3-4 degrees or more with no compromise to the integrity of the head. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. It is all about fitting. On the one hand to adjust the lie individually. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. Windtree Golf is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? Bending say, 2* strong would have minimal effect on offset. Loft angles are adjusted mostly for consistent distance gaps throughout the set. It has to do with posture and arm length and swing arc. 5-G Haven't registered for Team Titleist yet? The mark on the sole will show if your clubhead is level or toe up or down at impact. "Just change your swing" isn't always the answer. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable enjoy the game and enjoy your new irons: standard lie, loft and length works for 90% of recreational golfers. Can then bend the irons to get the sole level at impact - or with Ping you'll order them to suit. [/quote] Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable [/quote] Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. Cobra King LTD 17* w/Blueboard, Scor 50* RTX3 54* MD5 58* I choose my lofts based on the yardages I want to hit it and nothing else. While the result of bending strong may be that short/mid irons go further, it won't help on the top end of the bag. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. Day in particular looks like he's always hitting 100% or more. Yes delofting affects bounce. Bending the hosel toward or away from the face plane, opens or closes the clubs face angle. United States. Comparing 7 Iron Lofts - 2018 - Spargo Golf The most common reason for playing a stronger loft is to fill a gap in the bag, usually the long irons (lots of 4 irons bent strong) but throughout the set it would be uncommon to see more than 1* difference from standard either way. The iron will roll 'open' when bent strong. Have wondered why he always had a little fade with his Mizuno mp32 and mp67 irons but much less so with Callaway X16 irons. Bending irons 2 degrees stronger gopher99 May 9, 2021 May 9, 2021 Thread starter #1 G gopher99 Active member Joined Mar 15, 2019 Messages 235 Hi, i need some info from the more knowledgeable people on here than myself, I would like to bend my mizuno 921 forged irons 2 degrees stronger to fit in with the gapping on my wedges. gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. AP2 irons are forged and can be bent with no problem, BUT I would recommend taking them to someone who does this for a living. Can I bend my irons strong? - Golf Clubs - Team Titleist Apologies for the generalization to right-handed golfers, the opposite will obviously apply to lefties. That isn't the best or correct way by any means.it's just a tool. I will also need to bend my irons 2 degrees flat according to a lie board. So if you are steep or tend to take a pretty good divot, you may not want to bend them more than a degree. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] I would be VERY patient during this process of changing your ball position. One way to make the necessary adjustments to your golf clubs is to bend them. He use to shorten all of his irons half inch. Here are the lofts of the irons in that set. PING's i210 are the second most popular with 8 using them. 6 iron 29 183 The cb301 had an x100 and the blade had a modus 125x. ps my irons are bent (or when i got my Pings, ordered) 2 degrees up ;-) ) - this was to get the sole flat at impact honest. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? I do feel like I need to improve my spin loft, but I know tweaking the clubs might help as well. Cameron Special Select DelMar. [size=5][b] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pszXHplqx4[/url] (DTL). If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. He wanted to see the club face wide open. Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. While the result of bending strong may be that short/mid irons go further, it won't help on the top end of the bag. By Are Tommy Armour Clubs Good? Should Golfers De-Loft Their Irons & Other Clubs - Benefits, Guide If youre struggling with the current loft degrees of the irons in your bag, then changing the angle of your clubs by bending them could help you improve your ball striking. This is helpful if you want to adjust instead of replacing your irons, particularly if their loft angles arent as they should be. Sitemap. The credit goes to this website for explaining the entire process. You should absolutely give it a try with a few clubs and see what you think, you can always go back and it might just work. Strong lofts are only part of the equation that today's golf club engineers use to help you hit their irons further. It will just require substituting a hybrid for the 5 iron and up rather than for the 4 iron and up. The #1 reason for doing this is it changes how the club will sit on the ground. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? AutoFlex Golf Shaft Review: 8 Crucial Facts Before You Buy! I had my Vr pros bent 2* strong and it did both. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. Pasted as rich text. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. Callaway Apex Pro weak/strong - Toronto Golf Nuts

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